#bathena mention

[whateverthedragonswant]

Madney, Bathena, and Henren are all made for each other. LOVED this episode, right down to the equal partnerships being shown between the rings and flowers props.

So Natalia walked out on Buck after finding out about the baby. Kameron and Connor are having issues. I knew it. This baby is coming into Buck's life in a big way. And even though he tried to keep Natalia from leaving, he didn't turn Kameron away.

Then Eddie sees Marisol again, a woman he met at an emergency, something he just told Buck a couple of episodes ago that wasn't a good thing. Though this time, Eddie is the one who got an injury on his hand (from his attempts at trying to meet women) before he saw this woman again. Even though he appears to be attracted to her, supposedly having his moment, he still leaves without saying another word.

And the universe and signs are mentioned AGAIN.

In the episode where all of the canon romantic couples are having their lovey-dovey moments, we have Buck seeing an ex-flame on TV (selling her story, shocker, who didn't see that one coming) while with Natalia, and an ex-fling? ex-kiss? while out with Natalia. Neither of those situations or anything else he tells her scares her away. The baby does. A baby that has been hinted at Buck wanting very badly (aka being a dad/having a family) all season. And instead of Kameron eating the pickles, Buck sits on the couch eating them while looking up to where she's asleep. In this same episode, we learn that Pepa is setting Eddie up on dates because he won't do it himself. When he does take the initiative, it doesn't go well no matter the situation or circumstances. He also gets splashed with coffee (think 4x06 Jinx with Ana getting injured by spilled coffee & Buck burning his tongue with coffee). Then he sees a woman he met once and he and Buck helped her fix her house together. And instead of asking her out or asking for her number, he acts all twitterpated and leaves. Where he earlier talked to Bobby about wanting to find what he had with Shannon, which we found out last episode wasn't this big romance that it was all cracked up to be.

I mean, it's pretty obvious here that these two characters aren't real love interests. If they decided to have either guy pursue a relationship with either woman, it doesn't bode well. Especially for Buck and Natalia. Unless she's ready to be a mom (or create a family), she and Buck are on very different paths. (to be fair to her, she just met the guy but you get what I'm saying)

This is all very telling, I think. Especially when you have Madney, Bathena, and Henren being set up as the contrasts (the successful love relationships) to Eddie's and Buck's single exploits in this episode. Even Ella and her husband as well as the bride and groom who reconnected after so much time had passed. And then you also have the beginning emergency where the fiancee lies to her boyfriend and accepts his proposal and pretty much plans to do the same to him that Tatiana did to Chim. When Chim is going through it this episode (and last).

This episode couldn't be louder.

[thefrsers]

I'm not going anywhere.

[cinematicnomad]

9-1-1 ▸ 2.06 dosed || 7.09 ashes, ashes

[buddiesronance]

how sleeping tonight feels being a buddie and madney stan

[cbartonscoffee]

So I just watched 9-1-1 1x01 again, and...

This is Bobby and Athena the first time they're seen together on screen.

Athena is pissed because Buck refuses to let a kid on the same ambulance as her newborn because she threw him down the toilet. And Bobby is upset because he sent Buck ahead so he could get the newborn to the ambulance quicker and he comes down and finds out they're still there. So basically, the first time we see them, Athena is trying to save someone and Bobby is worried because that baby needs a hospital and the ambulance is just sitting there.

So he takes it into his own hands. He ignores Athena and Buck screaming at each other and just picks the girl up and carries her into the ambulance.

And then this happens:

FIRST TIME we see them on screen. Literally the first time they partake on the same scene. And don't forget, tensions are running high. Like, up until this point? They've only heard each other shout. Not a each other, but still.

Like, it's such a tiny detail, not many people are going to pick up on it, but I find it so cool and endearing. Here you have a character that we know it's closed off to people and who probably has something heavy in his past being supported by a character who (by what we've seen up to now) is assertive and empowering.

I'm not going to say foreshadowing or anything, because anything is possible. But what an acting choice. Kudos to Angela Bassett.

[guac-da-human5]

Okay just realized smth that’s probably stupid and just a coincidence haha but I’ve been reading a bunch of buddie posts (aka feeding my delusions aka coping) but the entire 118 is paired off (except for Ravi ofc) as a couple who’ve kinda coparented or adopted kids at one point.

Buddie um yeah very obviously Buck coparents with Eddie for Christopher.

But then also Chimney and Maddie at one point coparented Jee after their split (which they got back together bc it’s Madney and yeah).

Then HenRen, where Denny is I guess technically Hen’s kid bc yk the situation with Ava. But Karen chooses to adopt and raise Denny with Hen cuz love!!!! And they become a family.

And then Bathena where Athena splits with Michael and then Bobby comes in and basically adopts Athena’s kids as his own and becomes a family.

Like. There’s a billion ways two ppl can be besties and just besties only. But coparenting? Like this? Being each other’s rocks, guiding the kid together and both being that kid’s rock, and the kid having EQUAL care and attention from both ppl? Dude.

And I’m not saying that coparenting can never be platonic or that it doesn’t work if the parents are split or that it will never last and the partners will have to get together eventually. I’m not saying that. But in the context of this show. Come on man.

(So sorry for the long ass rant which continues in the tags but I need to get this out 🥸)

[dawntainbobbynash]

Well, the next time you’re out there running through the world, you should invite me along.

[disaster-j]

911 S8E1 Speculation

(This is stuff I think is likely to be in the first episode)

A Mara-centric scene likely with all four Han-Wilson parents

Athena getting a phone call about either the guy who killed her fiance or someone else related to that case

Maddie Han mention

Bobby complains to Athena about Hot Shots

Buck complains to Tommy about Gerard

Some joke about the 'stache

All the scenes in the trailer except plane collision happen in ep1

[makorragal-312]

Wow, this episode is REALLY focused on relationships, huh?

[daniwib]

Musing on the cruise explosion

Call me insane but I really want Bobby to be the one that causes the explosion. Accidentally, of course. Just, Bathena on the case to thwart the evil pirates and save the innocents. Bobby saying he'll create a distraction and running off, not seeing the side eye Athena sends his way. He's a firefighter, after all. They shut engines and motors down all the time so they can rescue people. So he shuts down the big ships engine, but he misses something vital. Letting pressure release or something, and it causes the explosion. And Bobby's like... "Oops. My bad" (as the ship is slowly rolling onto its side).

Chaos Bobby is the captain of the 118 after all. Who do you think taught them all their ways? Then after it's all over we get some delicious guilt and angst on his part for sinking a god-damned cruise ship and causing yet more deaths and maybe some lingering trauma / throwback to his first big loss... please. Give us the throwbacks for all of them! Those who've read my fic know that I adore lil nuggets of humour amidst my angst and whump and dammit I want that in this emergency too! Reblog if you agree!

[eddiewithcat]

FRIENDLY REMINDER !

just because someone creates a theory and they end up being wrong …. does not mean they are gaslighting! theories are fun! and silly! you do not need to attack someone if they end up being incorrect!

and also!!

you are allowed to ship whatever ship you want long as it isn’t inappropriate/problematic (ex: pedophilia, incest, teacher/student, canon gay character with girl / canon lesbian character with boy, etc)

ships are meant to be fun and just something you get excited over, make silly little head-canons etc etc

this could go for absolutely any fandom ever but i am specifically talking about 911 because Wow the amount of hate i have seen is crazy when it is really so easy to not be a dick! hope this helps <3)

[theclaravoyant]

that trope where you just had an argument with someone and then something bad happens to them and it might be the last thing you ever get to say - but on steroids because the argument you just had was about how you’re basically so worried it’s circled back around to being pissed off that the love of your life kinda wants to kill himself and now he might actually die (and it’s not even from that!)

[johanna-swann]

I actually have sooo many issues with 911 lately that haven't even got much to do with any ships.

Like. They wrote out almost all of the side characters. Chris is gone, Linda and Sue are gone, Athena's kids are gone (even though Harry just moved in with her and Bobby again? Seriously, where is Harry?), Ravi is gone, Carla is gone. I know the GA maybe don't care that much, casual viewers might not even have noticed that this many characters have just vanished from the show, but in my opinion this is one of the things that give a show running as long as 911 life. Having a big cast is a good thing. Otherwise things are going to get very monotonous very soon.

Actually, that's my second point. They keep repeating storylines! Every season Hen and Karen have to fight a custody battle over one of their kids.

Every season Eddie ends up realising he has a lot of repressed trauma and issues which keep him from leading a healthy happy and free life.

Every season Bathena realise that they have communication issues and they fight about it, but then something traumatic happens and they forgive each other without ever really talking things out.

Every season we are reminded that Maddie's most prominent character trait is "traumatised", the writers just alternatingly bring up Doug again and sometimes the ppd arc.

Every season we see Buck being somewhat restless, looking and searching for something that will bring him true happiness and cycling through love interests that never stick around and each time when you think "oh, there it is, he's getting somewhere now" the writers go "BEEEP! WRONG!" and we start all over again. [This is not just about recent events aka Tommy, the break-up and Buck potentially going back to his 1.0 ways, this also happened in season 6 when he had his "it doesn't matter what other people see in me, I'm enough" revelation only to suddenly be like "omg, Natalia just sees me".]

And Chimney- he had his moment last season with the wedding episode, Kenneth Choi really ate that episode up, but his most prominent character trait is "Maddie's supportive husband". There's really not that much going on with him otherwise.

Another point I briefly touched upon above is consistency. Like Harry moving back in with Athena and Bobby and then just vanishing. Or Gerrard being more like a slightly unfriendly grandpa than an actual antagonist in season 8 when he was still spouting slurs in season 7.

And the timeline! We talked about this before ("last March", Mara's fostering to adoption timeline, Tommy tranferring to harbour "5 years ago"), but the newest "Tommy was actually Abby's Tommy" twist just adds to that. Tommy was with Abby for over 2 years. They were engaged. This was at a time when he was still at the 118. Tommy dated Abby presumably because he was in denial or maybe because he was hiding. In either case, wouldn't his team at least have heard about his fiancée, Abby the dispatcher? Wouldn't that have rung a bell when Buck eventually brought her around only a year or two later? Tommy did talk about his private life at least a little at work, even under Gerrard. It just doesn't make sense. (Not to mention this seems wildly out of character for Tommy who around the same time also said about himself "being single is easier".)

Then there's the pacing. This was a huge issue in season 7. They jumped from one personal soap opera drama to the next without taking any breathers, had almost no procedural in their drama the whole season, still somehow decided to spend one third of the entire season just on the opening disaster and also squeezed in a "Bobby begins for the third time now" episode. But okay, it was a shortened season, there were strikes, they switched networks, they were under a lot of pressure - I'll cut them some slack. At least they set up a bunch of interesting stuff for the following season.

But we're in season 8 now. The renewal was announced very early, they had a lot of time to plan this time. Also they have almost double the episodes they had last season, there's really no need to rush any of the major plots. I am done cutting them slack.

They wanna do a 3 part opening disaster again? Okay fine, you have the time now. I feel like they could've easily done it in 2 episodes (especially 8x02 felt a little "eh"), but okay. Better than the breakneck speed you were going at befo- Oh, what's that? 8x04 flying in with a steel chair. You resolved 70% percent of the plots you set up last season in one single episode with no build up, no emotional pay off and no lasting consequences? And you also squeezed in multiple unrelated calls at the same time? Damn, okay then. Good-bye potentially interesting storylines. Fuck me for being invested I guess. I thought there would at least maybe be some follow up in 8x05, but no.

Now that Halloween episode wasn't bad, it was actually the best episode of this season imo, but instead of following up on previously established conflicts and developments they just hit us with new Wilson family trauma and conflict that was also immediately fixed again. And now 8x06 has speedrun and dumped another storyline that had potential to go to deeper and interesting places. Not gonna talk too much about that though because this post is about the show as a whole, not ships.

And I am not yet convinced that there will be much more to come on the only thing that's left from last season: Eddie's deep dive into his trauma and repression. It's totally possible at this point that being told "you deserve nice things" by a random stranger actually solved all of his problems, it would be very in tone with 911's new style.

What are they even gonna do with the rest of this season? Revisiting the Hotshots set sounds fun, but ultimately inconsequential. You know what's great about a regular old procedural drama with ~20 episodes per season that comes on weekly? You have time. You can let the viewers sit with their emotions and thoughts for a week and keep them engaged by stretching things out a little.

But why should I bother getting emotionally invested in problems the characters are gonna solve within the same episode anyway? Or rather, even if I wanted to, how am I supposed to care if you don't give me the time to develop any feelings about anything that's happening? "Henren lost in court and are now completely forbidden from seeing Mara at all!" Damn, that must be so har- "JUST KIDDING! Ortiz is exposed and everything is perfect again now." Oh. Okay then, I guess.

Bottom line: The characters are all stuck in their own hamster wheels, they keep cutting side characters that could bring a breeze of fresh air (I'm honestly surprised they even kept Josh until now), they rush through all the storylines a such a ridiculous speed that I don't even have time to feel any sort of way about it, they don't even try to keep a consistency or sensible timeline going and they seem to strongly prioritise random funny bits that'll entertain the very casual viewers right now in this moment (tiger call, Billy Boils, Bee-nado, the 'Stache tm, "wait, it's the same Abby?", Gerrard being a fangirl at heart) instead of playing the long game and catering to people who actually pay a little attention to the show.

[On that last remark: I'm not talking about hardcore fans who analyse every single frame here, I mean casual fans who've watched the show on and off again for a while and who may not be involved in fandom but genuinely care about the show.]

I mean. What am I even still doing here? The show is treading water and I end up disappointed more often than not. I'm still holding out a little hope that they actually will do something interesting with Eddie and his sea-monkeys, but I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't.

[lover-of-mine]

Okay, my insane theory that I was waiting for the episode to see if I'm right or not. This is a lot more from the business side of things than something actually plot-related. But the thing is, about a year ago, at some point during the s6-7 hiatus, I made a post about how I thought the show had written themselves into a corner when it comes to buddie basically because the stakes are too high (the post is here but please keep in mind I wrote this before Buck bi and thinking about the way fox dealt with them, and we have since found out something was supposed to happen in s4 and they were censored by fox and we are not dealing with that anymore, I will explain my thought process here tho). But basically, I thought that they were not gonna do buddie because the expectations around buddie were too high, and it was easier to play with their tension forever than getting them together.

Because the thing is, we are talking about a six plus seasons queer slowburn that already has a lot in canon, between Chris, the well, the shooting, the lightning, the fact that they are best friend partners, there's a lot at stake and the correct lead up can make it seem as if buddie has been planned when watching the whole show. And since buddie is already insane, buddie in a romantic setting would have to exceed expectations. There's also the way that since Buck and Eddie work together and are partners on the field, they would have to acknowledge buddie every episode they were both in, something that is not true for madney or bathena, so that means that at some level they would have to be okay with the show being known as the buddie show at some level. The way that buddie has the potential to be the first relationship of its kind, a queer multiseason network slowburn, means that there will be people who will watch the show because of buddie. I know I joke about how buddie will make 911 go down in television history, but it is true, buddie will be placed next to big television love stories, people will teach classes on buddie in film school, so they need to be okay with that focus on the relationship existing and potentially being the thing people talk about when thinking about the show. With season 6 knowledge, I thought that at best they would have buddie kiss in the last 10 minutes of the series finale just to say they did it because I did not believe that they would want to be forced to write buddie into every episode and deal with the external focus on them. Now, knowing that fox blocked Buck bi and with the way they didn't even let Oliver and Ryan stand next to each other, I believe fox was never gonna let buddie be what they could be.

We have different rules now. My thing there is the way that they would have to deal with the external focus on them and to acknowledge buddie every episode, right? Well, they set Oliver and Ryan lose last season, including paired, and they let them say all sorts of things, the I love you to the core, buddie wedding season 10, giving the people what they want, there's no competition for Eddie, Buck fills the space Shannon was support to have, every interview Oliver, Ryan or Tim do mentions buddie, so they clearly don't care if people discover the show through buddie, they seem to be leaning into it even. For example, the first video we got for s8 was a ryliver video. So that part is covered, they are fine with it. So that leaves us with the acknowledging buddie every episode. They are doing that. I think everyone knows I'm doing the buddie supercuts by now (if not you can find the ones that are done here), but I wrote a meta about this, something that happened in s7 that was not true in the previous seasons is the fact that buddie has at least one moment every single episode, 1 we had the whole partnership/co-parent thing, 2 we had the thing at the locker room, 3 we had them finishing each other sentences while moving around each other during the rescue, 4 and 5 I don't even need to say it, right, 6 we had the bachelor party, 7 we had the Buckley-Diaz family scene, 9 we had the kitchen scene, and 10 had all that partnership/co-parent thing again. So s7 proved that they don't care about writing buddie into every episode. 801 has a lot of buddie, my cut of the episode amounted to 11 minutes and 33 seconds, that's 27% of the episode, the only episode they have more than that is under pressure, which is saying something. 802 we also had some buddie squeezed in there even though the episode was about the plane. That was an Athena episode, but we still got buddie. So my whole thing with the post I made this morning was about the concept of them adding a buddie scene even though they started the episode physically separated. And Well, I'm gonna count this as my buddie shoutout. They were together on the plane, and we got that little look at the end.

I think, like Tim said in the interviews for s7, that they are trying to work a little buddie every episode because it is a core part of the show, and that is a way to get the audience used to having at least a little buddie every episode. And I think that's the biggest sign that something has shifted and buddie is cooking.

Anyway, yeah, that's the theory. If you read this I love you 🫶.

[dawntainbobbynash]

is there anyone in particular that athena hasn't interacted with as much lately that you'd like to see her have more scenes with in season 7? (and i mean from the main cast really)

Eddie. I actually have a fic idea featuring the two of them that I wanna write and it’s making me need to see more of that duo